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That was an exceptional essay, linking different lifestyles into one practical solution.

The Amish aren't involved in the Social Security scam either. Phenomonal craftsmen. As an aside, Big Brother does have the Amish in its sights. Developing land around their farms to tax them off. Spending over $5 MILLION to entrap a PA Amish dairy farmer for allegedly selling raw milk over the border into Maryland are two examples. They held strong against the Covid scam.

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Yes they are heroes of mine, I wish I had grown up in the old order and could be a part of that life. I do hope the people right here on Substack today can be a bridge to at least a more sane life along those lines.

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👍👍

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We have ESP! My next essay, which is ready for publication, features the Amish!

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Sep 3, 2023·edited Sep 3, 2023Author

It's the zeitgeist, or vibey as the kids say. :-)

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Great article! I recall a post-apocalyptic show where the desperate town-folk turned to the Amish and the Amish said, "You lived beyond your means."

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Sep 3, 2023Liked by Mr. Raven

I've been having the same thoughts about becoming more independent, though I wasn't thinking of the punks. It gave me a new way of looking at their crazy dancing as a celebration during those new order concerts.

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I was a punk in the 80s, so those are my people, lol. Punk is fat, bald and old now. :-)

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Sep 3, 2023Liked by Mr. Raven

Beautiful bro.

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Thanks, blush.

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Wow I could have written that, its out of my brain HAHAH.

Im doing all the above and we would love you to join us if you like. ( currently Im in South Africa )

But if you want I can hook you up with some real punks to live the dream :

Come visit.

https://www.wilderland.org.nz/

is the commune I grew up on

and

punks doing it in Tessesee...

https://thepeoplesprojectblog.wordpress.com/2016/05/07/shut-up-and-grow-it/

There is also these great guys, Ive stayed up there and it was great

https://wheaton-labs.com/

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Noice!

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Do I know you? I have not run AC in near 15 yrs. I live in the high desert, where "they" place,d many of my kind. Those to be banished from the lot of new commers - Same as we live again. I was born into the cold country (Mi.) I felt the need to go back, 'home' after "they", poisoned and killed, my husband, I no longer had. My needs are necessity. My wants, few. I know no people, as they have no right to know me - because they do not understand, nor have the will to. Because they concern for themselves and not another!

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Mar 30Liked by Mr. Raven

this reminds me of the story about NASA scientists spending millions designing a pen that works in space only to realize that a pencil is best.

Punkish maybe the future...

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Yes if we play our cards right we can be punks with cool shit like 3D printers and CNC machines, if we don't better learn to harness a horse.

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I can harness, have learnt them to buggy and ride bare of backs - They know me, well!

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I was part of the late-70's/early 80's L.A. scene. It has informed my thought and choices - it seems that I was drawn to it for very serious reasons that have since come to make sense.

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L.A. scene, you mean Los Angeles?

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Yes. X, Los Plugz, etc.

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Gotcha loved X back in the day, Under the Big Black Sun is a masterpiece.

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Dec 2, 2023·edited Dec 2, 2023Liked by Mr. Raven

After the GoGo's (X's constant early-days opening-act) got a record deal, X started gigging back-and-forth with the D.K.s. Shortly thereafter, Ray Manzarek joined X and connected them to Electra.

I had read "Last Exit to Brooklyn," etc. and was not shocked by "Johnny Hit and Run Pauline," etc., but Biafra was a shock. They opened with "Police Truck." It was a little...unnerving for a teenager. Alleycat's "Nothing Means Nothing Anymore" had a similar kick.

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I know you are supposed to like Wild Gift and Los Angeles, but I think Under the Big Black Sun has better songs.

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Seems fine to me - the first two were mostly from a very extensive and long-developed gig list, and the third was almost wholly new material. Certainly the three best, and I don't favor one over the other, myself.

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A great read, and sound advice. Let's cultivate useful skills and work from home. It's one helluva lot more convenient.

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Thanks.

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Ive found Jared Diamonds book “collapse” to contain interesting case studies. Whatever people think of Mr. Diamond

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I need to read that one and Tainter's book on the collapse of complex socities.

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If you aren't going to become an old order Amish, at least think about becoming an off-grid survivalist. Jack Spirco does The survival podcast on Youtube and Odysee. It's also podded on the RSS feed of your choice.

I think everyone should learn how to plant crops, cultivate them, and harvest them. People should know how to hunt and how to fish. People should know how to survive.

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I have been fishing since I have been a toddler, know how to grow food, and have several months worth of beans, lentils and split peas stored away. I live in a cottage in a wilderness area, I have my own well and lakes and trout streams surround me. There are no traffic lights in my county, and many bears, so yeah I get it.

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I pretty much am dude.

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Are you telling me I’m not living the life I am living? Lol!

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Sep 15, 2023·edited Sep 15, 2023Author

It's way less hard then you think, if you can set up an account here you can gut and scale a fish or butcher a deer. I haven't gone deer hunting yet, but a housemate of mine when I lived at a different place brought home a still warm roadkill deer and we processed it in my sink. You hang it up fro a couple of days to drain the blood out, and then you are ready to cut it up. It was like some something out of a horror movie, but not difficult, you just basically cut the meat off the bone in strips, put it freezer bags and put it in the freezer.

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Not horror, just plain ole survival! Our Creator deemed it so - And so, it shall be.

Unless: those as - sholes kill off all first! Same as the fish, the elk n the buffalo. Like they doing...

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Pretty much spot on.

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Thanks I appreciate it. I will be loading another long essay in about an hour, check it out if you enjoy my work.

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Great read, and an interesting take. A secular Amish approach.

I think you are right. The collapse is here. It just looks like disintegration and decline.

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Sep 8, 2023·edited Sep 8, 2023Author

Movies make us think that collapse is sudden, but in reality it's slow, Rome took hundreds of years to decay. Same for Easter Island, it took many years to completely die.

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My man!

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I also highly recommend the book “unlearn, rewild” by some Comox Hippie who lived off the grid eating road kill and dumpster diving and is full of practical tips on how to do so

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Sep 16, 2023Liked by Mr. Raven

You had me at road kill. I am a rabid fisherman and I tie my own flies. My youngsters were flabbergasted a few months ago when I cut the gorgeous tail off a squirrel (day old dead) to use the tail fibers for wings on a grasshopper like fly design (which has since proven itself multiple times on the lakes of Idaho).

On my run yesterday, I came across another fresh kill...so I gotta go get that tail today!

Yee haw living in the end times is fun!

Seriously though...as a child of the late 60s/70s I do indeed long for the simplicity of that time (meanwhile, we didn't know it, but the evil powers were building during that time and we were all asleep).

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Sounds cool.

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Miles Olsen is the author. I knew one of his disciples who i met in the big city of Calgary. Books on kobo, or whatever you yankees use

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